Voices for Good Podcast



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Voices for Good, Independent Sector’s policy podcast for nonprofits, foundations, and anyone advancing the common good.





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Season 4

S4E10: Building Community One Asset at a Time (October 29, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina and Ben discuss the latest headlines and how upcoming impeachment hearings may impact how quickly nonprofit policy issues move through Congress. They also sit with Sherry Salway Black, long-time advocate and champion for Native American communities’ self-determination, asset building, community investment, and cultural revitalization. The 2019 John W. Gardner Leadership Award recipient also discusses what she’s looking forward to at Upswell, our upcoming annual gathering in Chicago, where she will accept the award. Learn more about this episode.

S4E9: Centering Community Is Everything (Septemer 25, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina and Allison review some of the examples of advocacy in the news, reflect on IS All Staff Hill Day, and give the latest nonprofit policy updates. Laura Esquivel, director of national advocacy at Hispanic Federation, joins them to share best practices in ensuring that community-centered social change includes both direct services and advocacy. She also discusses how nonprofits and foundations can support investment in capacity building of community-led organizations and movements. Learn more about this episode.

S4E8: For Back-to-School, We’d Like Some Forgiveness (August 27, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina and Ben say goodbye to summer and August Recess, but not our student loans. They also discuss the latest nonprofit policy updates, including a recently passed federal budget law, political activity, the public charge rule, and share a preview of Congress’ fall priorities. Maggie Siller, associate at the New York-based law firm Selendy & Gay, joins Ben to discuss the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program and what some nonprofits are doing to ensure the U.S. Department of Education honors the program for 32 million eligible Americans. Learn more about this episode.

S4E7: We Cannot Wait Around for Change (July 25, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina and Allison discuss how racism continues to be a part of our politics, the advocacy efforts of Puerto Ricans, and the latest nonprofit policy topics including updates on a budget deal, 2020 census, political activity, and SNAP. Allison also talks to David Griggs, CEO & executive director of VoteRiders, a direct service organization that ensures Americans understand and navigate current voter ID laws, so they can vote. Learn more about this episode.

S4E6: Elections May Not Liberate Us, But It’s a Start (June 25, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison discuss the latest giving numbers, the citizen question on the census, and progress in the effort to repeal a provision of unrelated business income tax. Allison and Kristina also sit down with Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director of Liberation in a Generation, Jeremie Greer, to discuss how nonprofits, 501(c)(3)s and 501(c)(4)s, can best engage in the upcoming election season to ensure that people turn out to vote and the issues that matter to us are priorities to those we elect. Learn more about this episode.

S4E5: Lead with Your Heart and Values (May 30, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison discuss the latest nonprofit policy updates and why judicial advocacy is important in an era defined by court decisions. Ben and Allison also sit down with Justine Davenport, advocacy communications specialist at Council for Advancement and Support of Education (CASE), and Steve Taylor, senior vice president and counsel for public policy at United Way Worldwide, who reflect on whether recent Independent Sector research on values-based messaging rings true to their own experience advocating on Capitol Hill. Learn more about this episode.

S4E4: Beyond the Dollars and Cents (April 23, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison celebrate Earth Day and youth activism issue, and highlight the latest nonprofit policy happenings here in DC. Allison also shares the unrelated business income tax (UBIT) origin story, which includes a New York university and macaroni. Kristina and Allison are then joined by Joseph Cordes, professor at The George Washington University, to discuss the research he conducted on UBIT and what he plans to do next to help nonprofits understand the effects of these tax provisions. Learn more about this episode.

S4E3: Beyond the Dollars and Cents (March 27, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison avoid the political storm in the news and get down to business with nonprofit policy updates. Hear the latest about unrelated business income tax, charitable giving legislation, and the U.S. Department of Labor’s efforts to change overtime regulations. Sarah Abernathy, deputy executive director of the Committee for Education Funding, also breaks down just what the president’s budget means for nonprofits and gives us some deep insight on federal funding of education programs. Learn more about this episode.

S4E2: When Discretionary Spending is Essential (February 27, 2019)
In this episode, Ben and Kristina anticipate springtime in Washington, DC, which means advocates from across the country are in town to meet with their members of Congress, and discuss updates related to unrelated business income tax, charitable giving, and government spending. Ben Corb, director of public affairs at the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and co-chair of NDD United, joins as a guest to discuss what nonprofits should know about nondefense discretionary (NDD) funding efforts, how decisions on federal spending affect the mission of nonprofits across the country, and how they can get involved. Learn more about this episode.

S4E1: New Season, New Congress, New Drama (January 25, 2019)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison welcome folks back to a new season of Voices for Good. They begin with a recap of the 2018 midterm elections and how nonprofits helped turn out record voting numbers, and then discuss all the issues Independent Sector is following in 2019 including the government shutdown and new research recently released on unrelated business income tax provisions on nonprofits. Clarification: During the episode, Allison mentioned that he UBIT provision requiring nonprofits to report unrelated income streams separately would result in an average tax increase of $15,000 for effected organizations, including the administrative costs. That figure actually does not include administrative costs. Learn more about this episode.

Season 3

S3E10: Have We Mentioned You Should Vote? (October 24, 2018)
In this episode, Kristina, Allison, and Ben remind everyone in the charitable community (yes, every single one of you) to get out and vote, encourage others to do so, and consider a few other permissible political activities this fall. They also discuss what’s to come during the Lame Duck session and sit down with Patrick Rooney, executive associate dean for academic programs at the Lilly Family School of Philanthropy at Indiana University, to talk about changes in Americans’ giving habits. Learn more about this episode.

S3E9: FASB, What Now? (September 25, 2018)
In this episode, Kristina, Ben, and Allison get together after a longer than expected hiatus to discuss all the happenings in the nonprofit world including a new IRS commissioner, updates on government spending bills, new donor disclosure rules, and charitable giving changes in 2018. IS’s Carolyn Mollen and TechSoup’s Chris Worman then join Kristina to discuss FASB’s new accounting rule regarding cloud computer services. Learn more about this episode.

S3E8: Recess Is Serious Business (July 13, 2018)
In this episode, Kristina and Ben discuss the latest happenings in Washington with the Johnson Amendment, charitable giving, and the Supreme Court. We are also joined by Neal Denton, senior vice president and chief government affairs officer at YMCA of the USA, who tells us why engaging with lawmakers during August recess is important and can deliver big results. Learn more about this episode.

S3E7: Recess, Elections, and Race, Oh My! (June 6, 2018)
In this episode, Kristina is joined by IS policy directors, Ben Kershaw and Allison Grayson, to discuss the cancellation of August Recess, bipartisan momentum on 2019 appropriations, and what all nonprofits should be doing to participate in primary election season. We also welcome back Kerrien Suarez, director of Equity in the Center, who discusses their new publication about creating a race equity culture in nonprofit organizations. Learn more about this episode.

S3E6: The Universal Deduction Lives! (May 23, 2018)
In this episode, Jamie and Kristina discuss how foreign policy might affect the sector’s work, emphasize the need to continue advocating, and talk universal charitable deduction. While we officially bid farewell to Jamie as the co-host, we welcome Ben Kershaw, IS’s new director of public policy and government relations, to give us insight into what he thinks is next for the charitable community. Learn more about this episode.

S3E5: Want Change? Vote. (April 25, 2018)
In this episode, Jamie and Kristina talk about volunteer time, sector work culture, voting, and share some details on upcoming changes to the podcast. Brian Miller, executive director of Nonprofit VOTE, joins us to discuss voter engagement and how new toolkits for foundations can help us work toward a sector that holds power and empowers others in our democracy. Learn more about this episode.

S3E4: UBIT? You Bet! (April 20, 2018)
This episode, Jamie and Kristina need extra help to explain unrelated business income tax (UBIT) – yes, that’s a tax on tax-exempt organizations. We also discuss babies in the Senate, changes in Congress, and IRS bills. Guests include IS’ Carolyn Mollen and League of American Orchestras’ Heather Noonan, who help us explain how the tax bill passed in December had provisions that increase taxes on nonprofits, hindering their ability to deliver on their missions. Hear what you can do about it. Learn more about this episode.

S3E3: They Did What? (March 28, 2018)
A bipartisan spending package? This Congress? Yeah, it happened. Jamie and Kristina are joined by Independent Sector’s own Allison Grayson to break down the latest federal spending bill, celebrate youth advocacy, ignore parts of the news cycle (kind of), and discuss a Johnson Amendment win…for now! Learn more about this episode.

S3E2: Make the 2020 Census Count (March 1, 2018)
In this episode, Jamie and Kristina discuss the incredible advocacy work of young people and bring you updates on DACA and the Johnson Amendment. Independent Sector’s Allison Grayson also sits down with Maggie Osborn of United Philanthropy Forum to discuss the importance of the U.S. Census on every aspect of our lives. Listen for tips on what organizations and individuals should do to ensure a successful 2020 Census. Learn more about this episode.

S3E1: Guess Who’s Back (February 25, 2018)
Jamie and Kristina are back at it with a new podcast name. Voices for Good, formerly 100 Days for Good, promises to give you more analysis and commentary on policy issues affecting the charitable community and more exciting guests and experts. In our first episode back, we reflect on how much we all aged in 2017 and what we have to look forward to in 2018. Learn more about this episode.







Season 2

S2E1: Back from the Beltway (June 15, 2017)
Has it really only been five weeks? Kristina and Jamie return following a brief hiatus to catch up on a number of issues of importance on the federal policy landscape for the charitable community from spending and health care to tax reform (yes, it’s still on deck). They also preview the “plan” for Season 2 and respond to listener feedback from the first season. Note: This episode was recorded prior to the tragic shooting at the congressional GOP baseball practice on Wednesday, June 14. Kristina and Jamie – and the entire IS family – were horrified by this event and send our best wishes of recovery and peace to all affected. While we are committed to delivering our unique style each episode, we also take seriously the responsibility of being part of a solution that encourages better and more open discourse in this country. We hope you’ll join us in this effort as part of Season 2. Learn more about this episode.

S2E2: It’s About Rights And Responsibilities (June 29, 2017)
Jamie and Kristina discuss the week’s news including a healthcare update, which senator is tasked with overseeing individual tax reform, and what the Supreme Court decision on the travel ban means. Kristen Cambell, executive director or PACE (Philanthropy of Active Civic Engagement), also joins us to talk about civic engagement, how funders are supporting this work, and PACE’s new helpful resource – The Civic Engagement Primer. Learn more about this episode.

S2E3: The Pen Is Mightier (July 13, 2017)
This week, Jamie and Kristina try to ignore the Russia situation to talk about some of the issues affecting the sector, including plans for August Recess. Stacy Palmer, editor of The Chronicle of Philanthropy, also joins us to talk about the role media has played in shaping public perceptions about the charitable sector and what has changed since the trade newspaper launched almost 30 years ago. Learn more about this episode.

S2E4: Woke Is an Action Word (July 21, 2017)
Jamie and Kristina discuss the latest healthcare update, review what Congress has to accomplish after August Recess, and highlight some rare examples of civility in politics today. Independent Sector’s Allison Grayson also joins Kristina to interview Kerrien Suarez, director of Equity in the Center, a project of ProInspire. We talk about why diversity, equity, and inclusion should be important priorities for the charitable sector and what they have to do with positive policy outcomes. Learn more about this episode.

S2E5: For Whom the (Recess) Bell Tolls (August 11, 2017)
As Members of Congress head to their home districts this month, Jamie and Allison (filling in for Kristina this week) share why nonprofits should take advantage of the opportunity to share their stories on their home turf. Before our policy wonks get into some tips and resources to tee up your August conversations with policymakers, Jamie and Allison walk through the latest news from Capitol Hill, including the long road ahead for federal spending and tax reform (not to mention action on the Johnson Amendment that might come with it). Learn more about this episode.

S2E6: What’s Next? (September 14, 2017)
Recess is over. Is it ever. Kristina and Jamie return after a long August to recap the latest from Washington and what the last 30 days may tell us about the rest of the year for tax reform, federal spending, health care, and the vitality of our sector. We’re also joined by the always engaging Jatrice Martel Gaiter of Volunteers of America to talk about National Voter Registration Day and the power of participation. Decisions are made by those who show up – and we have work to do. Learn more about this episode.

S2E7: Cookies and Vegetables (September 28, 2017)
Repeal and replace – dead for now? What should we make of the new tax reform blueprint and the impact of the whole process on the charitable community and those we serve? Kristina and Jamie are joined this episode by Heather Meade of Washington Council, Ernst & Young for a post mortem on the latest health care efforts, a look ahead on tax reform, and reminder that the sweet policy treats offered in talking points by policymakers will eventually give way to much tougher (and sometimes tasteless) realities when it’s time to legislate. Learn more about this episode.

S2E8: Do You Hear Us Now? (October 12, 2017)

Remember when we told you that your advocacy matters? We have proof. Kristina and Jamie run through the news over the last two weeks, advocate everyone remember self-care amidst the negativity, then break down an important first step to ensure all Americans are incentivized to give in support of their communities. Rusty Mau, legislative assistant to Rep Mark Walker (R-NC), joins us to share more about the Universal Charitable Giving Act of 2017 (H.R. 3988). Learn more about this episode.

S2E9: We Weren’t Kidding. It’s Bad. (November 30, 2017)
We’re back, and it seems that the world is on fire. Jamie, Kristina, and Allison share the latest on tax reform, which is changing by the day. The news isn’t looking good for the sector and those we serve, but there is still time to take a stand. We also spend some time on other key issues we face before the year ends, including 2018 spending, DACA, CHIP, and net neutrality rule changes – and round it out with a call to find the hope and keep on fighting. Learn more about this episode.

Season 1

S1E1: Welcome to Washington (January 17, 2016)
Independent Sector launches 100 Days for Good with a discussion on how the charitable sector can use this podcast. Kyle Lierman, formerly with the White House Office of Public Engagement, walks us through what really happens when a new Administration takes over. Learn more about this episode.

S1E2: Reconciliation… Reconciled (January 26, 2017)
In episode two of 100 Days for Good, hosts Kristina Gawrgy Campbell and Jamie Tucker recap the events of the week including the inauguration, the Women’s March on Washington, and cabinet confirmation hearings. We also look ahead to the release of a budget by the Trump Administration. Sarah Kuehl Egge, federal budget expert with Washington Council Ernst & Young, also joins us to discuss the process of budget reconciliation, and how Congressional Republicans might use the tool to advance policy goals around the repeal of the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and tax reform. Learn more about this episode.

S1E3: Nonprofits and the ACA (February 2, 2017)
How will the possible repeal of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, impact individuals and communities we serve and represent, as well as the charitable organizations as employers? Heather Meade, principal with Washington Council Ernst & Young, will help lay out the practical side of the proposed changes. Learn more about this episode.

S1E4: The Johnson What? (February 9, 2017)
What is the Johnson Amendment? Why is the president intent on “destroying” it? What could it mean for 501(c)(3) organizations across the country and their ability to engage in direct political advocacy? Join our resident expert, Allison Grayson and special guest, Emily Peterson-Cassin with the Bright Lines Project, to learn more about the issue and how a number of nonprofit organizations, including Independent Sector, are responding. Learn more about this episode.

S1E5: Above All, Advocate (February 16, 2017)
There is power in organizing, but as with all important movements, it begins with individual recognition for the need to speak out and become an advocate. The first few weeks of 2017 have been a master class in the importance and impact of advocacy and the power of organizations. Join us for a conversation with Sarah Boison, a nonprofit professional and key member of the volunteer communications team for the Women’s March on Washington, about the practical side of organizing and implementing an effective advocacy strategy and program. Learn more about this episode.

S1E6: Special Edition – Johnson Revisited (February 23, 2017)
Thanks to great listener feedback, we take another crack at the Johnson Amendment, hosting a “mock debate” between Jamie Tucker and resident expert Allison Grayson to help talk through in better context some of the various arguments around Johnson Amendment repeal and implications for nonprofit organizations. Learn more about this episode.

S1E7: Addressing the Address (March 2, 2017)
We take a deep dive into President Donald J. Trump’s first address to Congress and discuss what we learned about policy priorities, what the charitable sector needs to know, and where to go from here. Independent Sector Chief Strategy Officer Jeff Moore joins us to provide his insights. Learn more about this episode.

S1E8: Healthcare Is, In Fact, Complicated (March 9, 2017)
We have a bill… or two bills… and they may need more. House Republicans are proceeding with legislation to repeal and replace large portions of the Affordable Care Act. Kristina and Jamie welcome back Heather Meade from Washington Council Ernst & Young to talk through legislative strategy, highlights, what happens next, and what it all could mean for the nonprofit community and the people we serve. Learn more about this episode.

S1E9: Regulatory Changes Made Real (March 16, 2017)
Legislate? What if it’s time to regulate? We’re joined by Laura Weidner of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society to talk about the practical advantages and opportunities for nonprofits to engage directly with executive agencies to effect policy change. Learn more about this episode.

S1E10: It’s Open Season (on Federal Funding) (March 23, 2017)
It’s non-binding, but the president’s budget is a window into an administration’s priorities – and so far what we’ve seen may have serious implications for the charitable community and people we serve. Kristina and Jamie welcome back Sarah Egge of Washington Council Ernst & Young to go beyond the black and white of hard numbers to discuss the potential impact and likely next steps as the Trump administration and Congress navigate budget season. Learn more about this episode.

S1E11: Judicial Advocacy (March 30, 2017)
We’ll discuss how nonprofits can use the judicial system to advocate for what matters to them. Gregory M. Lipper, partner at Clinton Brook & Peed, and former counsel at Americans United for Separation of Church and State, give us some insights on how judicial advocacy fits into your full advocacy strategy. Learn more about this episode.

S1E12: Tax Reform – The Devil’s in the Details (April 6, 2017)
This year marks the 100th anniversary of the charitable deduction, and policymakers’ plans for comprehensive tax reform may open the door to strengthen and expand incentives to give in the tax code – but there are also many more potential reform priorities that could impact our work and the people we serve. Join us for a conversation with Hadar Susskind of the Council on Foundations about what the charitable and philanthropic community needs to know in the tax reform debate. Learn more about this episode.

S1E13: Recess – Back to the Basics (April 13, 2017)
Washington, DC feels a little empty this week with Members of Congress back home (and the president in Florida), but looking back over the first 12 weeks, maybe a little quiet isn’t so bad. Kristina and Jamie discuss the latest news from the city that never turns off its smartphones and share some practical tips for how you can engage with your elected officials during recess. Learn more about this episode.

S1E14: The Art(s) of Advocacy
The arts community is made of a diverse set of cultural and civic organizations especially affected by recent policy proposals to cut federal funding and limit the incentive for charitable giving. Brandon Gryde, director of government affairs for Dance/USA and OPERA America, joins us to discuss the value of advocacy for arts organizations and how the arts sector has been on the forefront of engaging policymakers around budget and tax issues on behalf of the entire charitable community. Learn more about this episode.

S1E15: Let’s Talk About Taxes…Again! (April 20, 2017)
As we approach the 100-day mark, the Trump Administration is looking to get all the wins they can to brand this period as a success. Part of that effort is unveiling some details of their tax reform plan. We sit down with Steve Taylor, senior vice president for public policy at United Way Worldwide, to react to Trump’s tax plan. While the Administration proposes keeping the charitable deduction, changes to the standard deduction and other proposals raise some red flags for nonprofits. Learn more about this episode.

S1E16: Season Finale (May 4, 2017)
We wrap up season 1 of 100 Days for Good and talk about what’s ahead. IS President and CEO Dan Cardinali joins us. Learn more about this episode.

Production of Season 1 sponsored by Miles Knight. Creative + Strategy. MilesKnight.com

About the Hosts

Kristina Gawrgy Campbell is the director of strategic communications and public relations at Independent Sector.

Allison Grayson is the director of policy development and analysis at Independent Sector.

Ben Kershaw is the director of public policy and government relations at Independent Sector.

Jamie Tucker is the former director of public policy strategy and operations at Independent Sector.

Disclaimer: Independent Sector values and encourages the representation of various opinions and points of view as part of our podcasts. The diverse views of our guests may not necessarily reflect those of IS or its member organizations.



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